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16 June 2006

New Translation Approved

An AP report was issued a few hours ago declaring that the USCCB has finally approved the new translation of the Mass that is supposedly closer to the Latin. It better be. Now it has to go on to the Vatican for the final approval.

You can read the AP report here and please discuss below.

10 comments:

Raindear said...

Any chance they'll ever do away with the bazillion options in the NO?

Papa Sanctus Pius X said...

"And also with you" had better be gone. We want "And with thy spirit!"

Ma Beck said...

I wish they'd whittle down the countless Eucharistic prayers.
But that'll never happen.

"But what about the chilllldreeenn?

James said...

The problem seems to me to be much deeper than just within the quality of the translation from Latin. The Novus Ordo doesn't properly connect to the Catholic Faith and the traditional Mass, and to my mind the attempt to retranslate it is an attempt at trying to postpone the inevitable backlash against it. Saying it in Latin doesn't make the Novus Ordo any better either.

We'll all be so caught up in the trivialities of "And with your spirit" that we'll overlook the "For the Kingdom the Power and the Glory..".

The Novus Ordo is too flawed particularily because I think it is a reinterpretation of the Catholic Mass through a modernist/Protestant agenda, and the Tridentine Mass certainly warranted correction, but I would propose that a retranslation of the Novus Ordo is not the solution. Doing so is like adding wheels to a liturgical dancer.

Anonymous said...

The approval of this new translation may indicate an awareness and an admission by the bishops, better late than never, that the NO Mass is a primary reason why the Church appears not to be flourishing. Maybe it's their last ditch effort to try to prove to themselves that the NO mass, if only fine tuned, will engender that long-awaited, 'Springtime of the Faith' they were looking for so long ago.

James said...

Hi Anonymous, I'd suspect that if it's not a 100% Catholic Mass, then I would suspect that it will never succeed and the Church will fall apart just like the Episcipalians and the Protestants. I wouldn't be surprised if in the future we look back to the "Spirit of Vatican II" as being yet another Church schism with some weak Popes.

Anyhow, the Eastern Churchs might be the only ones genuine ones left at Armageddon - a pity, but it's looking more and more likely.

mighty_duck said...

Some of the Eastern liturgies are amazingly beautiful if done correctly - all chanted. But the East has problems too, maybe not as many liturigical problems because it is kind of hard to change parts of the Liturgy because the deacons have an integral and participatory role. The thing I don't understand is why priest feels the need to change any part of the Mass in the first place. I mean really just read the freaking book for crying out loud.

Papa Sanctus Pius X said...

James,
We agree that the problem runs much deeper than the translation of the NO. We prefer the lowest, low Mass to a well done NO Mass anyday. I also agree that the NO in Latin is not enough and that there need to be significant reforms of the NO (since a full-scale return to the Old Mass is likely) in order for these problems to be solved. However, the new translation is a step in the right direction of recognizing the importance of the liturgy.

James said...

Agreed Papa Sanctus Pius X, it is a step in the right direction, but I think that it is entirely possible that it might inadvertantly revitalise the Latin Mass through it's sheer inconvinience to the laity and clergy alike.

If one has to choose between becoming familar with the Old Mass or the Novus Novus Ordo - I think many might take the traditional Mass if they're given the option, and they now have the option when they didn't last time around.

Papa Sanctus Pius X said...

We agree. We are also of the firm belief that most people would choose beauty over, well, over the Novus Ordo.